Tuesday, March 11, 2008

The Vatican announces 7 NEW flavors of sin!

49 comments:

Benjamin Baxter said...

It isn't even 7 NEW flavors, just different versions of the old ones. Weak.

Brian B said...

A master stroke! Nicely done.

Jolly Bloger said...

Very cool... now where's the one that includes all 14? ;)

Moeskido said...

Very glad I married a _lapsed_ Catholic.

Michael said...

Your best this year I reckon!

----"The West"---!

Robert said...

Great, I love your work.

abbersnail said...

Oh, bravo!

Benjamin Baxter said...

Sure, maybe A and B are in contention, but I don't know anyone who would honestly argue that the rest are GOOD things to do.

The Church is too easy a target for you people.

Heather said...

AG just made me spew water all over my keyboard. Well done!

chetzniel said...

either indexed or vatican or both are communists... based upon this card at least.

you'll be sittin' pretty if hillary gets elected.

'Rise up, you oppressed! Down with Capitalism!'

Gene Shiau said...

For a moment I thought I was reading The Onion. Oh but imagine that: Jessica Hagy as a featured columnist of The Onion. I'd be in heaven!

john said...

I think you should stick to your cute little peanut butter and jelly venn diagrams and leave the backhanded religious commentary out. I'm with baxter...pretty weak.

Lenin said...

I guess the Pope must look that... May be another set of sin should be announced :)

Great! Very cool.

Thoughtful Review Guy said...

We prefer to think of it as importing garbage to Michigan, and we need the income right now, thank you very much.

This entry is far from sub-par, I enjoyed it greatly. I had to google for a few things, and I can't help but wonder what you have against Hrant Dink, a Turkish-Armenian editor and journalist. :P

(And I don't know what a peanut-butter & jelly Venn diagram is, but it can't be half as interesting as the ham sandwich theorem, which is like the pancake theorem, but nothing at all like the sandwich theorem.)

Andrew said...

Great job! Keep them coming.

Steven said...

I am so impressed that you took the time to do all this! Your mind must work in overdrive.

Marc André said...

Ah, chetzniel! It has to be one extreme or the other, has it? Social democracy doesn't exist, I take it.Gues you would only compare the situation in the US to poverty-striken countries or dictatorships.

Anonymous said...

yay let's pick on the Catholic Church for having sensible ethical positions which they vigorously maintain! what chumps! na-na-na-na-nana!

mrburkemath said...

That's the problem with having 21 punchlines: they can't all be gems. Some funny ones, some groaners, some in-between.

That said, I'll agree with baxter. Easy target.

Pamela said...

I like it. Brilliant

Sassy said...

Very, very VERY nicely done!!

Declan said...

I think the Church is often an easy target... because it sets itself up that way. The new sins are pretty vaguely defined considering you could spend an eternity in hell for committing them.

Well done, Jessica, I say.

Matt said...

I don't see how some people are claiming this an attack on the church or some sort of communist propaganda. As a capitalist Catholic, I say great job.

Then again, that might be because I can see this for what it really is... "a little project that lets [Jessica] make fun of some things and sense of others. [She] use[s] it to think a little more relationally without resorting to doing actual math."

The Vatican should have included overreaction as one of the sins too. eh? eh?

Diana said...

@ benjamin: how do you see these as updates on the old ones?

I see that birth control can (to the Church) be similar to lust, and that drug abuse is just a specific form of gluttony, and avarice is connected to the last three of the "new" ones. But I can't find sloth (unless you're too lazy to recycle?), or wrath (you hate stem cells?), or envy, or pride.

Help me out?

And I'm a huge fan, Jessica. You aren't "attacking" the Church, you're seeing humor in all situations; the world needs more of this (and to lighten up, apparently).

Mariajaan said...

This is beyond funny. A brilliant way to find humor in every situation and also to think a little about philosofical proposals by the church. How extreme is to think that this is insulting, I mean, why B.Baxter assumes that all that is NOT good must become a sin? Is not a Capital sin too much of an attribute to a conduct such as pollutinbg the environment. Smoking is, technically speaking, polluting, but should it be catalogued as sinful? CAPITALLY??? How very peculiar thought it would be by the church and its followers.In any event, for all those acts to be deemed inappropriate I did not need to listen form the church.
The charts by INDEXED are always genial. Keep them comming! Thanks.

TSA said...

Baxter, the church is an easy target exactly because it breaks the last three itself (in part by upholding the first two).

It is an excessively wealthy organisation, and is widening the gap between poor and rich by using its influence to make sure more are born to poverty. It does this, and incidentally creates unimaginable human tragedy, by opposing sex ed and basic prophylactics in HIV-riddled, overpopulated parts of Africa.

The first two, by the way, are not "in contention", but are unequivocally wrong and evil, especially when you consider that B covers "questionable experimentation", like "altering DNA". Considering that bio-engineering is the only realistic hope we have of feeding the world's hungry, that's a tremendously ignorant thing to condemn. Norman Borlaug saw this reality in the early sixties, and saved countless people in Asia and Africa (some say a billion) by engineering new wheat strains and farming procedures. By this archaic belief system, he'll burn in hell for it.

Nice job, Vatican!

(Sorry for the rant, Jessica, but thank you for sharing your work.)

rascoagogo said...

Good one!

Can you believe they announce new sins you can be punished for? Crazy.

Anonymous said...

I couldn't believe they made up new sins; I thought it was a joke. I have to say that it's not my favorite, but it would have been amiss not to comment on something like this. You've already got an indexed card with the old ones, so this was necessary. And I'd like to add my voice to those saying that it's not just communists and capitalists. The happy medium just hasn't found the right slogan to get its message out.

Tatsujin said...

Dear me, but this is excellent. Since Jessica supposedly has nothing to do with the comments, allow me to elaborate on Baxter's point. "It isn't even 7 NEW flavors, just different versions of the old ones. Weak." -- is referring to the fact that the "7 new sins" are a re-interpretation of the old major sins, just like they made a similar list for 'sins of car-drivers'. They are not (never do?) "write" new sins, they just reinterpret the old ones in ways relevant to modern life. Delicious, this diagram is.

dmk said...

Brilliant, first time on this site and it won't be the last.

It's worth clarifying that the 'sins' were examples mentioned in one newspaper interview by a Vatican staff member who'd been running a seminar on hearing confessions. It's the blogosphere and media who gave them the '7 new deadly sins' tag.

Anyway, it's certainly kicked off a debate on what makes for right and wrong, which maybe was the sinister global conspiracy Vatican ploy in the first place.

Jim said...

Some of you people need to lighten up and learn to take a joke. I'm a Catholic and I loved this one

Jim said...

omg.... I cant believe this is acually real! I just looked it up in Google... so to Benjamin Baxter and you people who think the 7 new ones are stupid, you just called the pope stupid

mrburkemath said...

No, the seven new sins weren't being called stupid, some of the jokes being made regarding them caused the problem, which from I can tell were only called "stupid" by you. That would be the very definition of a "strawman" argument.

Anonymous said...

This is something that has always bothered me about self righteous northern liberal, you go down to Brownsville and beg and scrape for the Hispanic vote, then immediately turn around and ridicule our Catholic beliefs. Why is it that you think you can get away with that? I have noticed a lot more discriminatory comments about my religion than my race while going to school in Austin and there was alway a note of shock in the voices of the person when I objected to the anti-Catholic comments. Do they just think "Oh look a Mexican, since he isn't white he'll agree with all my ideas including my bigoted views on her church!"
Just because you don't think my uncle should be deported doesn't mean I am going to listen to your rants about how horrible my religion and not be offended!

Anonymous said...

^^oops i forgot the 's' in she and she'll, damn

Anonymous said...

lol you should preview your comments before you post them

Anonymous said...

Ironically, the same christian conservatives who are so deeply offended that a humorous index card has supposedly insulted their religion like to say what dangerous extremists muslims are when they get upset about cartoons of Mohammed.

Anonymous said...

@ huffypuffin' anonymous:
awwww. you poor thing. someone is poking fun at your antiquated and antihuman religion.

you should make like the extremist muslims over in europe and go on a flagburning crusade against western freedom of thought! that always makes them feel better.
i bet it'll make the Church even more popular, too. go ahead, stick your sister in a burkha. you'll feel right at home. bloviating fundamentalist religious types FTW!

the funny bit about this new-sins crap is that it's a transparent ploy by the church to seem humanistic and up-to-date, while they continue to deny the basic rights to birth control and non-breeder lifestyles that would lead to some amount of real improvement in the world situation. it *would be* amusing, i should say, if it weren't so pathetic.

good on you, jess.

Benjamin Baxter said...

@ diana

You asked how the "new" sins are different versions of the old ones. You broke it down pretty well, so I'll clarify my comment.

I didn't say that all seven deadly sins were represented. My point was that the category of "deadly sin" was simply interpreted to fit the modern age; that's a point someone else has already made.

To respond to someone else: I don't, either, make the claim that good and "non-sinful" are the same thing, especially as that weighs in on an individual's understanding or relativistic definition of "good."

Others rather insultingly attacked my person, and so I shall ignore them, other than to say that there is a gross ignorance and misunderstanding of not to mention a cheerful apathy towards what the Church actually stands for throughout the world.

Bloggers and the media --- as they, as someone has said, were the ones who applied the "new seven deadlies" label --- are obviously no exception. Unfortunately, it seems, commenters here aren't, either.

Atheists love their bigotry to the exclusion of everyone else's, and the Internet is full of both. Take offense to this only if it fills you with worldly and faux-righteous indignation.

If you should take offense to this, either you already have or you're laughing at me for writing something that looks so misguided to you.

For those of you keeping score at home, note that I mentioned no names in my own bout of ad hominem.

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Chris said...

AWESOME! Jessica, keep 'em coming. Your daily insights really brighten my day.

gRegor said...

Great job, particularly on "War on Drugs" and "Mandatory Sentences", but then you went and got it wrong on "Capitalism". B+ then, I guess. :)

Claire :) said...

FANTASTIC!!! :)
Love it! Graphs are just as good as Venn diagrams for making me happy. Stop being offended people, it's just a bit of mathsy fun :)

Anonymous said...

FG = Catholic Church

Joseph said...

AG is Social Secutiry crashing.

Scott said...

I cannot believe the trash that you are posting on the internet.

It's bad enough that every media outlet in America has completely F*$cked up the story, but all of you maggot bloggers have to go and make it even worse.

1. The Vatican never released anything. Check their site, nothing new.
2. It wasn't the Pope, or the Church, or even someone speaking officially. It was a bishop in an informal interview.
3. It wasn't even a f*&%cking list!!!

4. NONE OF THAT STUFF IS NEW! He was talking about old stuff in an interview and Reuters reported on it as if it was something new and everyone copied them!!!!

5. THIS IS ALL COMPLETE BULLSHIT

*** If you don't believe anything I am saying, do some actual goddamn research on your own, instead of just making a blog based on what you heard on the radio on the way to Dunkin Donuts.

People like you are ruining our world, and people like you are the reason we are slowly losing our free-speech rights. The government thinks we don't deserve them, and you prove them right.

Check some of the facts from someone who actually understands what happened:
http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=57130

Consider yourself educated. Next time there is no excuse for this idiocy.

Anonymous said...

Erm, it's a joke, Scott. Chill the fuck out. And anyway, the degree of accuracy of the joke's premise doesn't have much to do with its capacity for cultural insight. S'all I'm sayin.
I know this is way late. I was just browsing and felt someone needed to say this.
And Jessica, you kind of rock my world.

bapped said...

this is incredible! how much thought process must go into these...you genius!

sehrgut said...

Oh, shut up about the E-F already . . . if you'd study a bit of elementary economics, you'd realize that your E-F is the only antidote to G.

Anonymous said...

Have you seen this site? People are confessing their sins online at http://iconfessmyself.blogspot.com

 
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