Of all your brilliant index-card cartoons, this is the first one I think is wrong. I've learned a hell of a lot in lectures. (It's the quality of lecturer, of course.)
Presumably you were listening, not lecturing - and presumably your lecturer wasn't learning much (unless they were either fantastically bad, or fantastically good).
I think you should look at it only from the point of view of your actions. If you're lecturing, you're teaching but not learning (provided you prepared ahead of time). If you're listening to a lecture, it's the other way around. In a conversation, you can do both.
I've been reading Indexed for a while; as an educational technologist, instructional designer, teacher, edublogger etc... this one "hits home." I'd like to share this one on my blog as well; I currently have a link to this post at http://edtechatouille.blogspot.com.
Actually, as someone who used to do a lot of lecturing, I learned a lot from doing it. This was mostly because I was teaching things I didn't really know- I was but a few pages ahead of the students.
They learned, I learned, everybody won.
As for television's corner on the graph- all I can say in rebuttal is "Carl Sagan's Cosmos".
All right, that link didn't work, so I'll resend. If it doesn't work, try Googling "the learning pyramid". I'm sure those lecture-based pedagogues did learn a lot from lecturing, but their students probably didn't get nearly as much out of it as they might have had they been involved in the discourse.
As a radical unschooler, I have to disagree - we learn a LOT from TV. A whole lot. lol Conversations are great, too - they both have value in our lives. Once I stopped demonizing television, I realized how enriching it can really be.
@David - You can tinyurl long URLs! http://tinyurl.com/ I just discovered that about a year ago, and I've been evangelizing ever since. Like "command-F" on a Mac, tinyurl changed my life.
This site is a little project that lets me make fun of some things and sense of others.
I use it to think a little more relationally without resorting to doing actual math.
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nice!
As a teacher, this one REALLY brings home the importance of learning from one another. I'd like this one poster sized and framed.
this is fantastic!
Thanks for this one!
Of all your brilliant index-card cartoons, this is the first one I think is wrong. I've learned a hell of a lot in lectures. (It's the quality of lecturer, of course.)
Brilliant... I would love to share this on my website! When it comes to your site, "A 'Graph' is worth a thousand words!"
@erik:
Presumably you were listening, not lecturing - and presumably your lecturer wasn't learning much (unless they were either fantastically bad, or fantastically good).
unless the tele=PBS
also @ erik:
I think you should look at it only from the point of view of your actions. If you're lecturing, you're teaching but not learning (provided you prepared ahead of time). If you're listening to a lecture, it's the other way around. In a conversation, you can do both.
I've been reading Indexed for a while; as an educational technologist, instructional designer, teacher, edublogger etc... this one "hits home." I'd like to share this one on my blog as well; I currently have a link to this post at http://edtechatouille.blogspot.com.
Thanks. Really enjoy your blog!
-Chris
@bungo:
Actually, as someone who used to do a lot of lecturing, I learned a lot from doing it. This was mostly because I was teaching things I didn't really know- I was but a few pages ahead of the students.
They learned, I learned, everybody won.
As for television's corner on the graph- all I can say in rebuttal is "Carl Sagan's Cosmos".
http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~tbayston/eme6313/learning_pyramid.jpg
All right, that link didn't work, so I'll resend. If it doesn't work, try Googling "the learning pyramid". I'm sure those lecture-based pedagogues did learn a lot from lecturing, but their students probably didn't get nearly as much out of it as they might have had they been involved in the discourse.
http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~tbayston/eme6313/learning_pyramid.jpg
Your links are missing _pyramid.jpg ('underscore'pyramid.jpg)
It takes them off mine when I try, as well. *shrug*
Thanks, yeah, I'm frustrated. I'll only post short links from now on.
BRILLIANT
As a radical unschooler, I have to disagree - we learn a LOT from TV. A whole lot. lol Conversations are great, too - they both have value in our lives. Once I stopped demonizing television, I realized how enriching it can really be.
@David - You can tinyurl long URLs!
http://tinyurl.com/
I just discovered that about a year ago, and I've been evangelizing ever since. Like "command-F" on a Mac, tinyurl changed my life.
guess u r too good!!!!
keep it up
I'll say it as Marx did. I find television very educating. As soon as anyone turns one on, I go into another room and read a book.
Perfect!
bigpicture.typepad.com linked me over here to admire all this wonderful chart porn. "interesting" is far and away my favorite. keep up the good work!
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