Monday, January 22, 2007

The stud vs. slut issue.

20 comments:

Mau said...

Sad but true. Gotta luv this macho society... No, not really.

t-hype said...

But there's an unanswered question: Should A move toward B or B toward A?

Shadowbird said...

I wrote an essay on this once... :\

t-hype: I think they should both become vertical lines.

Anthony said...
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Anthony said...

How much sex you've had should weigh into your public approval about as much how much tennis you've played. Sex is nice and pleasure is good for you*, but having it doesn't make you better than anyone else. There are so many things more important than how few or many partners you've had, like, how well you've been treating your partners.

(Easton, Liszt)

Anonymous said...

who doesn't like sluts?

Anonymous said...

While the chart is quite true, there are more than two axes. There are about 100 of them, and on MOST of them, women have the clear advantage - women can get sex much more easily than men, they don't NEED is as much as men do (though they can LIKE it a lot). Women can have as many orgasms as they want to, all day long, they don't have to worry about getting or keeping an erection, and so on. In every area but 3, women have the advantage. The only advantages men have are 1) can't get pregnant, 2) more socially acceptable to be a slut, and 3) nearly guaranteed to have an orgasm every time they have sex. But outside those things, women have every advantage in the sexual arena.

Anonymous said...

Yeah - I was wondering what direction you were advocating, as well.

Given the chances of having some microscopic creepy-crawly increasing proportionately with the number of different partners, I know what I'd vote for!

Sanman said...

I'm a man and I try to avoid this idea as much as I can but, even being conscious of it, it is quite difficult and I blame society for this (being me part of it, I know, it's quite a strange situation). I'd like this long way to go not to be this long and I'm trying to contribute on shortening it as much as I can.

PD: I've been reading you for quite a long time now but I still hadn't commented, I love this one-box-strip you do. Good job! ;)

Aldana said...

Anthony, I couldn not agree with you more. We, women and men, are ruled by numbers instead of quality.

And to the anonymous that said men have "only" 3 advantages... they have the better 3, dude. Women have to "work" hard to score 1 orgasm/week and when they do, they become sluts... which makes them feel bad about them selves, this resulting in having more or less sex... No go, macho doesn't work anymore, never did, never will.

Anonymous said...

AB is approximately the length of men's accumulated resentment.

Anonymous said...

Heh. My personal response to an instance of B, as a guy who is not an instance of A, is jealousy, not contempt.

Anonymous said...

t-hype: From the notation, it looks like A->B to me

PS: As a guy who represents point O, I agree with the previous Anon.

DataShade said...

Wait, women don't need sex as much as men? Whoa, someone tell my last three girlfriends I didn't need to go down on them at least four times a week, I want the first two layers of skin on my tongue back.


Seriously, that anonymous post was so far in left field it's not even funny. Any kind of double-standard is crap. Societal conventions that impose shame are crap. We don't need to look at like a PVP game and inspect the "advantages" of a scorn dynamic for class balance.

Anonymous said...

I think as little of men who sleep around as women who do. And I want to sleep with them even less.

Joel said...

I know women complain about this a lot, but I just don't see it. The people I know who are proud of the number of partners they have don't discriminate between men and women, and the people I know who avoid sleeping around in general will look down on sluts of either gender.

Jim said...

But should A move towrds B, or B move towards A? I personally think A should move towards B.

Anonymous said...

Interestingly, A and B can be inverted and moved to the left, nearing the zero on the x axis. The phenomenon can be best represented linearly, with the two lines forming a sort of "x" pattern between the extremes. In short, men and women have inverse social expectations leveled against them in regards to sex, in terms of both shame and praise.

The result isn't a double standard; it's -two- standards. Not really fair to either A or B.

Anonymous said...

I think this chart can inverse itself depending on the quality of the partners. At some point, men lose all respect and women are held up as examples to follow (read: anybody who scores with Brad Pitt)

Reg said...

I think this difference is something innate.I'm going to speak in generalities. Men want sex with many women, especially when they aren't getting any. Women, on the other hand are looking for a relationship of some kind.
So men will judge the "studs" to have some sort of heroic status because sex is their hardwired primary goal. While women will demean the "sluts" because they allow themselves to get emotionally used.

Note: I'm a guy. I don't know if most women would consider the "stud" the same way a guy would. I can see them thinking of them as a conquest, something to hunt and capture into a lasting relationship perhaps, but I think that is still demeaning the "stud". I think that the male reaction to the "slut" is complicated. There are some men who would see experience as a very desirable trait in a woman (as long as STDs aren't a worry).

 
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